What equation is represented between the two speeches and identify what each part of the equation means?
Tap2=ac
a)T = Tone b)A = Appeals c)P = Passion for people d)A = Accepting e)C = Change
List two appeals present in Sacred Soil and One of the appeals in I will fight no more forever. Briefly explain how those appeals are affective in each speech.
Tone And Appeals:
TAP2 = AC TàTone -uses a sorrowful and heartfelt tone to give audience emphasis on the connection to the land and people -“every part of this soil is sacred in the estimation of my people.Every hillside, every every every valley, every plain and grove has been hallowed by some sad or happy event in my days long vanished” -Key Words: soil, vanished, every -“he who led the young men is dead.It is cold and we have no blankets.The little children are freezing to death” - Again, word choice adds to the effect of the tone. -Key words: little children, freezing to death Aà AppealsDid anyone find an appeal that struck out most? -Mythosà portrays poetic narrative and traditional comfort of the Native American people -“My words are like the stars that never change…tribe follows tribe and nation follows nation like the waves of a sea” -Incorporates nature and humanity together poetically showing his love for the land and gives off that heartfelt feeling of tradition. -Pathosàthroughout the whole sppech, he gives the sleepy, beautiful poetry of nature and people, but often gave the sharp stab of aggression - Your time of decay may be distant, but it will surely come, for even the White Man whose God walked and talked with him as friend with friend cannot be exempt from the common destiny…these shores will swarm with invisible dead of my tribe and when your children’s children think they are alone in the field…they will not be alone.Let him be just and deal kindly with my people for the dead are not powerless. -Logosà Acceptance of the reality of the situation -“His people are many.They are like the grass that covers vast prairies.My people are few.They resemble the scattering trees of a storm swept plain… I will not dwell on as we too may have been somewhat to blame” -Ethosà Chief of the tribe, fatherly figure “my people,” description of nature (knows the land) PàPassion toward the People -“my people, our people, your people” - In Fight no more forever: my heart is sad and sick…I want to have time to lookfor my children” -In Sacred Soil: Every part of this soil is sacred in the estimation of my people ACà“I think my people will accept it and will retire to the reservation you offer them.Then we will dwell apart in peace” “I will fight no more forever.My heart is sad and sick." Rhetoric, Themes, and American Dream :
To study, it is recommended that you identify the devices listed on this page:
on the list of following important quotes from "This Sacred Soil" and the entirity of "I Will Fight No More Forever":
“Then in reality he will be our father and we his children. But can that ever be? Your God is not our God! Your God loves your people and hates mine! He folds his strong protecting arms lovingly about the paleface and leads him by the hand as a father leads an infant son…How then can we be brothers? How can your God become our God and renew our prosperity and awaken in us dreams of returning greatness?” “But why should I mourn at the untimely fate of my people? Tribe follows tribe, and nation follows nation, like the waves of the sea. It is the order of nature, and regret is useless.” “When our young men grow angry at some real or imaginary wrong, and disfigure their faces with black paint, it denotes that their hearts are black, and that they are often cruel and relentless, and our old men and old women are unable to restrain them. Thus it has ever been. Thus it was when the white man began to push our forefathers ever westward.” “Every part of this soil is sacred in the estimation of my people. Every hillside, every valley, every plain and grove, has been hallowed by some sad or happy event in days long vanished. Even the rocks, which seem to be dumb and dead as the swelter in the sun along the silent shore, thrill with memories of stirring events connected with the lives of my people, and the very dust upon which you now stand responds more lovingly to their footsteps than yours, because it is rich with the blood of our ancestors, and our bare feet are conscious of the sympathetic touch.” “Sad-voiced winds moan in the distance. Grim fate seems to be on the Red Man's trail, and wherever he will hear the approaching footsteps of his fell destroyer and prepare stolidly to meet his doom, as does the wounded doe that hears the approaching footsteps of the hunter.” “The great, and I presume -- good, White Chief sends us word that he wishes to buy our land but is willing to allow us enough to live comfortably. This indeed appears just, even generous, for the Red Man no longer has rights that he need respect, and the offer may be wise, also, as we are no longer in need of an extensive country.” “Our dead never forget this beautiful world that gave them being. They still love its verdant valleys, its murmuring rivers, its magnificent mountains, sequestered vales and verdant lined lakes and bays, and ever yearn in tender fond affection over the lonely hearted living, and often return from the happy hunting ground to visit, guide, console, and comfort them.” “Then we will dwell apart in peace, for the words of the Great White Chief seem to be the words of nature speaking to my people out of dense darkness.” ]
Misc. Themes, Motifs, etc.:
Common Threads: 1) The idea of youth’s lack of windom “Youth is impulsive.When our young men grown angry at some real or imaginary wrong, and disfigure their faces with black paint, it denotes that their hearts are black, and that they are often cruel and relentless, and our old men and old women are unable to restrain them.” “The old men are all dead.Is it the young men who say no and yes.He who led the young men is dead.” Theme: Sacrificing tradition for the immediate will be detrimental in the long-term. This echoes the white man’s forcible taking of the Indians’ land, representing a new wave of greed and lack of respect for that which is old.While Seattle’s speech holds hope for balance (almost retribution) and a threat of what is to come (extinction) for the whites, Joseph’s is just surrender. What they want: Sacred Soil: 1) They want peace, and to end hostilities. “But let us hope that the hostilities between us may never return.We would have everything to lose and nothing to gain.Revenge by young men is considered gain, even at the cost of their own lives, but old men who stay at home in times of war, and mothers who have sons to lose, know better.” 2) They want their ancestral land to be respected and protected I Will Fight No more forever 1) He wants his people safe “It is cold and we have no blankets.” 2) He wants to avoid conflict “Hear me, my chiefs, I am tired.My heart is sad and sick.” 3) He wants to convey the plight of the dying Indian culture “The old men are all dead” Motifs: SS: Sky=eternity -shows the permanence of his people, and how death is only change.In the end, the white fate will be the same “..whose teeming multitudes once filled this vast continent as stars fill the firmament.” “Not a single star of hope hovers above his horizon.” The white man is doomed “..Even the white man..cannot be exempt from the common destiny.We may be brothers after all.We will see.” “The White man will never be alone.” I will fight no more forever: Blankets=tribal security -the lack of blankets shows their complete vulnerability and lack of hope His dream: to have land independently of the whites, free from conflict.He wants respect for land, ancestors, and ancestral tradition. Rhetorical Devices Ironic deduction- “This indeed appears just, even generous, for the Red Man no longer has rights that he need respect, and the offer may be wise, also, as we are no longer in need of an extensive country.” -This first gains sympathy for the Native Americans, who have been reduced so drastically in number and mistreated.Next, it shows the ridiculousness of the offer by the whites, who want to buy the Native American’s homeland, and acknowledge none of the Native Americans’ rights. “Then we will dwell apart in peace, for the words of the Great White Chief seem to be the words of nature speaking to my people out of dense darkness.” Figurative Language “Grim fate seems to be on the Red Man's trail, and wherever he will hear the approaching footsteps of his fell destroyer and prepare stolidly to meet his doom, as does the wounded doe that hears the approaching footsteps of the hunter.” -reinforces the pathetic appeal perfectly.It also brings an incredible reality to the gravity of the situation, while tying the lingual poetry of the Native American tradition. Anaphora “Every part of this soil is sacred in the estimation of my people. Every hillside, every valley, every plain and grove, has been hallowed by some sad or happy event in days long vanished.” “Thus it has ever been. Thus it was when the white man began to push our forefathers ever westward.” -Anaphora reinforces the importance of nature to the Native American culture.It also reinforces the eternal motif, showing the timelessness of their culture and the unchangeability of their existence. Rhetorical Questions “He in reality he will be our father and we his children. But can that ever be? Your God is not our God!”.. “How then can we be brothers? How can your God become our God and renew our prosperity and awaken in us dreams of returning greatness?” -Throws the delineation between the whites and Native Americans into sharp relief, and throws away the pretense of the assumed familiarity between the whites present and the Native American cause.Liken to Fredrick Douglas’s speech. “But why should I mourn at the untimely fate of my people? Tribe follows tribe, and nation follows nation, like the waves of the sea.” -Shows exactly what is happening with the Native American people, and reinforces the motif of eternity. His dream: For the fighting to stop, to end conflict, and to save the remainder of his people. Rhetorical Devices Epistrophe “Sharp Tongue is dead. Hooltohoté is dead. The shamans are dead. It is young men who say yes or no. He who led the young is dead.” -Shows the gravity and desperation.It shows that there is no time for flowery language, only cold facts.It also reinforces the fact that he’s surrendering under desperation, because there is nothing else to so, rather than because he wants to. Polysndeton -creates choppy, short sentences.They reinforce the pathos appeal in their simplicity because they are honest and cannot be misconstrued.
“Your time of decay may be distant, but it will surely come, for even the White Man whose God walked and talked with him as friend to friend, cannot be exempt from the common destiny. We may be brothers after all. We will see.”
- What is a common motif between the two speeches?
- The lack of wisdom or impatience of youth
- Which of the following served to reinforce the theme made by the Chief of the Nez Perce in his speech?
a) rhetorical questionsb) epsitrophe
c) antithesis
d) hortative sentences
- Answer: B
- What equation is represented between the two speeches and identify what each part of the equation means?
- Tap2=ac
a) T = Toneb) A = Appeals
c) P = Passion for people
d) A = Accepting
e) C = Change
Tone And Appeals:
TAP2 = AC
Tà Tone
- uses a sorrowful and heartfelt tone to give audience emphasis on the connection to the land and people
- “every part of this soil is sacred in the estimation of my people. Every hillside, every every every valley, every plain and grove has been hallowed by some sad or happy event in my days long vanished”
- Key Words: soil, vanished, every
-“he who led the young men is dead. It is cold and we have no blankets. The little children are freezing to death”
- Again, word choice adds to the effect of the tone.
- Key words: little children, freezing to death
Aà Appeals Did anyone find an appeal that struck out most?
- Mythosà portrays poetic narrative and traditional comfort of the Native American people
- “My words are like the stars that never change…tribe follows tribe and nation follows nation like the waves of a sea”
- Incorporates nature and humanity together poetically showing his love for the land and gives off that heartfelt feeling of tradition.
- Pathosàthroughout the whole sppech, he gives the sleepy, beautiful poetry of nature and people, but often gave the sharp stab of aggression
- Your time of decay may be distant, but it will surely come, for even the White Man whose God walked and talked with him as friend with friend cannot be exempt from the common destiny…these shores will swarm with invisible dead of my tribe and when your children’s children think they are alone in the field…they will not be alone. Let him be just and deal kindly with my people for the dead are not powerless.
- Logosà Acceptance of the reality of the situation
- “His people are many. They are like the grass that covers vast prairies. My people are few. They resemble the scattering trees of a storm swept plain… I will not dwell on as we too may have been somewhat to blame”
- Ethosà Chief of the tribe, fatherly figure “my people,” description of nature (knows the land)
Pà Passion toward the People
-“my people, our people, your people”
- In Fight no more forever: my heart is sad and sick…I want to have time to look for my children”
-In Sacred Soil: Every part of this soil is sacred in the estimation of my people
ACà “I think my people will accept it and will retire to the reservation you offer them. Then we will dwell apart in peace”
“I will fight no more forever. My heart is sad and sick."
Rhetoric, Themes, and American Dream :
To study, it is recommended that you identify the devices listed on this page:
on the list of following important quotes from "This Sacred Soil" and the entirity of "I Will Fight No More Forever":
“But why should I mourn at the untimely fate of my people? Tribe follows tribe, and nation follows nation, like the waves of the sea. It is the order of nature, and regret is useless.”
“When our young men grow angry at some real or imaginary wrong, and disfigure their faces with black paint, it denotes that their hearts are black, and that they are often cruel and relentless, and our old men and old women are unable to restrain them. Thus it has ever been. Thus it was when the white man began to push our forefathers ever westward.”
“Every part of this soil is sacred in the estimation of my people. Every hillside, every valley, every plain and grove, has been hallowed by some sad or happy event in days long vanished. Even the rocks, which seem to be dumb and dead as the swelter in the sun along the silent shore, thrill with memories of stirring events connected with the lives of my people, and the very dust upon which you now stand responds more lovingly to their footsteps than yours, because it is rich with the blood of our ancestors, and our bare feet are conscious of the sympathetic touch.”
“Sad-voiced winds moan in the distance. Grim fate seems to be on the Red Man's trail, and wherever he will hear the approaching footsteps of his fell destroyer and prepare stolidly to meet his doom, as does the wounded doe that hears the approaching footsteps of the hunter.”
“The great, and I presume -- good, White Chief sends us word that he wishes to buy our land but is willing to allow us enough to live comfortably. This indeed appears just, even generous, for the Red Man no longer has rights that he need respect, and the offer may be wise, also, as we are no longer in need of an extensive country.”
“Our dead never forget this beautiful world that gave them being. They still love its verdant valleys, its murmuring rivers, its magnificent mountains, sequestered vales and verdant lined lakes and bays, and ever yearn in tender fond affection over the lonely hearted living, and often return from the happy hunting ground to visit, guide, console, and comfort them.”
“Then we will dwell apart in peace, for the words of the Great White Chief seem to be the words of nature speaking to my people out of dense darkness.”
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Common Threads:
1) The idea of youth’s lack of windom
“Youth is impulsive. When our young men grown angry at some real or imaginary wrong, and disfigure their faces with black paint, it denotes that their hearts are black, and that they are often cruel and relentless, and our old men and old women are unable to restrain them.”
“The old men are all dead. Is it the young men who say no and yes. He who led the young men is dead.”
Theme: Sacrificing tradition for the immediate will be detrimental in the long-term.
This echoes the white man’s forcible taking of the Indians’ land, representing a new wave of greed and lack of respect for that which is old. While Seattle’s speech holds hope for balance (almost retribution) and a threat of what is to come (extinction) for the whites, Joseph’s is just surrender.
What they want:
Sacred Soil:
1) They want peace, and to end hostilities.
“But let us hope that the hostilities between us may never return. We would have everything to lose and nothing to gain. Revenge by young men is considered gain, even at the cost of their own lives, but old men who stay at home in times of war, and mothers who have sons to lose, know better.”
2) They want their ancestral land to be respected and protected
I Will Fight No more forever
1) He wants his people safe
“It is cold and we have no blankets.”
2) He wants to avoid conflict
“Hear me, my chiefs, I am tired. My heart is sad and sick.”
3) He wants to convey the plight of the dying Indian culture
“The old men are all dead”
Motifs:
SS:
Sky=eternity
-shows the permanence of his people, and how death is only change. In the end, the white fate will be the same
“..whose teeming multitudes once filled this vast continent as stars fill the firmament.”
“Not a single star of hope hovers above his horizon.”
The white man is doomed
“..Even the white man..cannot be exempt from the common destiny. We may be brothers after all. We will see.”
“The White man will never be alone.”
I will fight no more forever:
Blankets=tribal security
-the lack of blankets shows their complete vulnerability and lack of hope
His dream: to have land independently of the whites, free from conflict. He wants respect for land, ancestors, and ancestral tradition.
Rhetorical Devices
Ironic deduction- “This indeed appears just, even generous, for the Red Man no longer has rights that he need respect, and the offer may be wise, also, as we are no longer in need of an extensive country.”
-This first gains sympathy for the Native Americans, who have been reduced so drastically in number and mistreated. Next, it shows the ridiculousness of the offer by the whites, who want to buy the Native American’s homeland, and acknowledge none of the Native Americans’ rights.
“Then we will dwell apart in peace, for the words of the Great White Chief seem to be the words of nature speaking to my people out of dense darkness.”
Figurative Language
“Grim fate seems to be on the Red Man's trail, and wherever he will hear the approaching footsteps of his fell destroyer and prepare stolidly to meet his doom, as does the wounded doe that hears the approaching footsteps of the hunter.”
-reinforces the pathetic appeal perfectly. It also brings an incredible reality to the gravity of the situation, while tying the lingual poetry of the Native American tradition.
Anaphora
“Every part of this soil is sacred in the estimation of my people. Every hillside, every valley, every plain and grove, has been hallowed by some sad or happy event in days long vanished.”
“Thus it has ever been. Thus it was when the white man began to push our forefathers ever westward.”
-Anaphora reinforces the importance of nature to the Native American culture. It also reinforces the eternal motif, showing the timelessness of their culture and the unchangeability of their existence.
Rhetorical Questions “He in reality he will be our father and we his children. But can that ever be? Your God is not our God!”.. “How then can we be brothers? How can your God become our God and renew our prosperity and awaken in us dreams of returning greatness?”
-Throws the delineation between the whites and Native Americans into sharp relief, and throws away the pretense of the assumed familiarity between the whites present and the Native American cause. Liken to Fredrick Douglas’s speech.
“But why should I mourn at the untimely fate of my people? Tribe follows tribe, and nation follows nation, like the waves of the sea.”
-Shows exactly what is happening with the Native American people, and reinforces the motif of eternity.
His dream: For the fighting to stop, to end conflict, and to save the remainder of his people.
Rhetorical Devices
Epistrophe
“Sharp Tongue is dead. Hooltohoté is dead. The shamans are dead. It is young men who say yes or no. He who led the young is dead.”
-Shows the gravity and desperation. It shows that there is no time for flowery language, only cold facts. It also reinforces the fact that he’s surrendering under desperation, because there is nothing else to so, rather than because he wants to.
Polysndeton
-creates choppy, short sentences. They reinforce the pathos appeal in their simplicity because they are honest and cannot be misconstrued.